So the guys had a "Skip Jansen" on the pod to discuss a new suspect who is considered a suspect by LE but not named to the public. It's really not that hard. It was February 13, 2017 when 13-year-old Abby Williams and her best friend, 14-year-old Libby German, went on a walk on Delphi's historic trails. However, these are all unconfirmed rumors. There are screenshots showing the discrepancies. Thank you so much! Indiana Cold Cases is similar and so is True Crime Jesus. He hunted deer on RLs land all the time. This KAK guy simply got messed up in sending sexual videos to underage teenage girls and collecting the same from them. You think Im stupid? 1 hr. I don't even have a solid theory atm really because I've discredited a bunch of my own. The crime occurred on February 13, or 2/13. He was living in the Evansdale area at the time. Apparently claimed that he saw Mr. X in another town around the time of the murders. The category below Proven is ally called Unverified with Different Qualifications. This blood will probably will not come out with the wash. He prefers whiskey, its his drink of choice and hes off without it. He was right in the middle of all the police and media, and no one suspected him. I very much think that a lot of the things that have puzzled me are now easily explained by Skip Jansen and Faceman's theory. Anyhow on YT one of the titles says former cheerleader. Not that thats necessarily relevant to the case, just that one of your pics above makes more sense now lol. From memory, the first sketch is derived from the witness descriptions of 2-3 people? Thank you. Libbys phone did not record him for 43 seconds. This would explain how he could control two teens from running away as well as using a fake gun and badge. That most likely wouldn't happen without resources like this constantly keeping attention on cases. Lists a factory as place of residence. One question: I havent seen this anywhere but have the police questioned Mr. X about the murders? White scarf covering the lower half of his face. FSG is at the trails every day. I 100% agree about Mr X, and I recently seen a pic of his stepson which I think looks similar to the YBG sketch. Feel free to post about any unsolved case you think is interesting, high profile preferred. An Indiana man accused of killing two teenage girls in the infamous Delphi murder case was linked to the crime through an unspent bullet found at the scene, newly revealed documents show. Could it that the killers were middle aged men, DP and not sure yet, maybe FSG but both dressed exact same so people would be confused? Hi folks! I read through it early on, saw interesting stuff and then later came back and tried to find the interesting stuff but got lost. I see you may have particular interest in the Evansdale case due to proximity. You want me to put it up? Yes. I was never aware that anyone had any good evidence against this harmless-looking fellow. The documents state that the wound to one of the girls was so brutal that the blood splatter would have been dramatic, drenching the killers clothes in blood. @Amber- The end goal here is justice for Abby and Libby. This source close to the retired detective will be referred to as an LE source close to the investigation. I understand that all of my information may not be correct! This is a rumor that a woman walking her dogs on the bridge at 12:30 PM on the day of the murders, a full hour before BG probably appeared on the trails at 1:30 PM, saw a man who looked like the Young BG sketch. Yes, they would be looking for it, because if you know computers etc. There are neighbors separated by acreage. Thats going to be very hard for him to explain. I have one more message for you. In other words, LE are convinced that BG filmed or videotaped his crime. This person is externalizing their pain into rage and projecting it outwards at the world. This family member may maintain a different surname, by generation, but they are in fact, related! We will discuss things we learned in the Perry Freeman interview on Saturday night as well as other thoughts about what could be happening in the case.Reddit: https://www.reddit.com/r/DelphiMurders/https://pdresources.wordpress.com/201https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blhttps://www.innocentlivesfoundation.oAs a friendly reminder, I do the BEST research I possibly can before posting every single one of my videos. ( WXIN) A 2017 search warrant in connection with the Delphi, Indiana killings of Abby Williams and Libby German has been shared with the public. Richard Matthew Allen was arrested for the 2017 double murder of Liberty German and Abigail Williams in October 2022. I've been unsuccessful trying to figure it out. WRITTEN IN CAPS, APOLOGIES, BUT EVERYONE NEEDS TO KNOW THIS. Thanks again for the interesting and jaw dropping article!!! Cookie Notice The only crime on Mr. Xs record is an expunged conviction for statutory rape from 1984 in Indiana when he 18 and the girl was 14. FAIR USE Section 107 of the Copyright Act of 1976. Kirts knew those backwoods just as good & probably better than Logan didI dunno man, the motive is dead on too (his beast of a girlfriend Garth getting locked up & losing custody of her son because of Libertys dad snitching for jail time easingI first thought this was a serial crimeNow, after looking at a lot more of the detail (& coming in to this in December 21, with most of the pertinent activity already have taken place), Id say chances of it being serial are probably less than 1%. Thank u. Kim Riley discusses the sketch released Monday of a man believed to be connected to murder of Liberty German and Abigail Williams in February in Delphi, Indiana. He does not work there at the moment. The autopsy of the other would know if she was a virgin and even if the killer violated her with whatever she would have bled a little so that could have been detected also. They think he did it. Also theres only one way for LE to know that BG filmed his crime if the rumors about sending video of the crime to the girls phones afterwards is true. Case in point - he said last time that his suspect was currently in jail. I realize unsolved would be a magnet for that but wow. This may extend to age 15. I dont know if its in a garage, or the shed, perhaps? Plenty of time to get numbers, etc. I personally find it odd for a tryst. Our best police source just told us that Ron Logan has been absolutely cleared as a suspect. Suspect arrives before 2pm and cheats on his girlfriend in the car and then goes walking across the bridge with her and into the trails. Instead they were penetrated with inanimate objects, which, last time I checked, do not cause pregnancy. I doubt it. Forgive me if Ive missed this, but whats keeping police from arresting this guy? It makes sense LE's statements in the 2019 press conference to the killer and also that when they asked what he thinks people will think when they find out and that he's hiding in plain sight. These people are from all over the country and have expertise in all sorts of different areas. Lets discuss what we know and what might have been overlooked in the beginning.As a friendly reminder, I do the best research possible before posting any of my videos, however, the nature of these videos means I rely on news outlets, speculation of Investigators, journalists, family members. Consequently, the accuracy of our statements should go up a lot too. Yes, the police have told us that they now think that Bridge Guy or Mr. X did Evansdale too. When I was young I would take off till late evening, and it was ok. Obviously this is the only type of personality that is capable of podcasting an egomaniac on the other hand, their personality pathology limits the usefulness of their shows. Abby may have been naked below the waist. Were their clothes found with the bodies at the crime scene? Furthermore, homicide is the most serious thing you can charge anyone with. Thank you for stopping by the site. How often to killers, of children or otherwise, take fucking photos and videos of their goddamned crimes? Until then, the enemies will keep attacking. Did he see BG? We believe that his truck got towed later on when his wife never showed up with the keys, that Mr. X searched Ron Logans land that evening with two other men, and that he left his truck sitting in that same spot for 18 hours until the next day when the bodies were found. Are we making up lies about getting information from police when we actually have no contacts with them? She mentions how the search parties on the 13th had a hard time finding the girls because they didnt think the were looking for bodies but alive girls and she says additionally, also they were partially covered. What does that mean? He will crack soon. I do not want to see this man or his family harassed in any way. One seems to be PNB and the other is RRB. CN: Middle aged man, resident of Delphi. Nic comes on and says hes not on here to discuss suspects and literally does just that. Young girls menstrual cycles can be so messed up until possibly a few years later. The truth is that some of the things LE said in that conference are true. And he has an accomplice, a much younger man. They act like Im sort of deranged psychopathic maniac whos a danger to women and children. ), and has a strong connection to the girls. And humans are animals too. That could be why they referred to BG as a creepy guy and still following us. Otherwise, and putting myself in their situation, if I saw someone at a distance on the bridge, I would have thought it was just another hiker and would not have been concerned that he was still following me. Can anyone remember what he would comment on or say? I get the impression that LE thought that this officer was lying and were trying to offer him some protection. Then the girl he left on the trails comes to find him below the bridge around 3pm and she argues with him for not coming back quickly (he was delayed killing the girls and FSG hears them arguing at 3pm). Abby was the one that had the boyfriend. Something to think about. R/DelphiMurders is completely useless due to their no rumors or speculation rules, which means that you can only discuss what is proven about the case, which after four years, is just about nothing. If the sketch depicting an older suspect truly came from DP attempting to misdirect the investigation, it's very interesting that it bears such a strong resemblance to his father. I do not know why RRB is? I definitely think that he was passed info inadvertently. As a friendly reminder, I do the BEST research I possibly can before posting every single one of my videos. Hes laughing b/c theyve been focused upon a completely wrong direction. I do not feel that this has anything to do with anything. Do you know why FSG was there at the trails; how long hed been there; how he got there; if he drove, what sort of car he drove and where he parked it. It says they are looking for photos, videos, cameras, videocameras, film, etc. I believe Mr. X is the guy. At least two prior marriages. Yes, they did record audio of themselves torturing those girls. In particular, user/tobor is excellent. But the scanner doesnt say she came to bring the keys. Reddit and its partners use cookies and similar technologies to provide you with a better experience. He had been there that morning too. Are you speculating? I like some of these guys. Most of the rest are not bad people, but they are showboats, loudmouths, and boasters with egos the size of small planets. Etc. I actually looked into the possibility that DP could be covering for someone. The last person on Earth to protect the killer is poor Becky Patty, God bless her mortal soul. But answer me this. I wont reveal who I am talking about here though it should be obvious. THE sister of a girl slain in the Delphi 'Snapchat murders' says news of a potential breakthrough in the case reopened "old wounds" last week but has also given her hope that police are finally . Im confused. In my option the perp is home grown. Both girls were posed with their legs spread wide in a sexual posing. Clearly very familiar with the area of the crime and perhaps knew it as well as the back of his hand. He's a guy. The only reason his wife would be coming to the site to retrieve his keys is if he lost his keys and she was coming to deliver a spare set. We will discuss Ethics in reporting and other significant issues surrounding the case!Join Me Behind The Crime Door.\"Where Nothing Is Ever As It Seems!\" Super Thanks option is now available for those who appreciate the replays and want to support. @Luciana S- Others close to the victims, who I will not name, have channeled their grief into rage and lashing out at everyone around them. We obtained this document via a public records request. I did not delete the post; which means skipjansen did it. But who was his roomate in evansdale in the hotel they stayed in? Maybe. We have 250 members in our group. DELPHI, Ind. The problem with this is that a searcher claims he searched the area where the girls were found the night of 2-13 and not only were the girls not there but none of the props were there either. If you want to get to the real meat of the post, scroll down to Facts of the Main Suspect in the Case Mr. X. What did Ron Logan have to say about the BG photo? Theres a knife that he used to kill the girls. Also, the props were put at the scene later too, perhaps after the girls were killed. This week we continue our coverage of this very high profile case. Furthermore, when people say that I, Robert Lindsay, have no sources, no documents, on and on, please keep something in mind. Tragedy struck the small town of Delphi, Indiana on , when Abby, 13, and Libby, 14, were murdered on a hiking trail. Leave this poor man alone, for Gods sake. I think that the killer was very familiar with someone in the family somewhere. The only DNA found on the girls was that of Kelsi, sister of Libby. Apparently there is a human need to wonder, guess, and posit. Skip provides a notable suspect at the scene with a shady storyline, but we still are left in the dark about motive. A girls hand wrapped around a knife which was plunged into a log that she was resting her head on. Thank you for all the work on the Delphi case. I do not have a POI and I am in no way accusing anyone of being Bridge Guy. Kelsis DNA was the only DNA found on the bodies. Pay at least $20 for lifetime membership to my PayPal. Allen, a 50-year-old Delphi man, was arrested last month and charged with two counts of murder for the Feb. 2017 killings. In 2004, police on Big Pine Key responded to a gruesome scene. Makes no sense at all. He wasnt searching for his keys early on. So, I recently became the latest target of Derek Godsey, with him using my name and photo to create fake accounts and specifically using my name in one of his recent videos, naming me as the murderer. Do we know who is posting as DP on fb ? I cant demand that my friends give me money! Mr. X also cuts up a lot of deer that he shoots for food. Thats not very many. Robert Lindsay is the leader of a sleuthing group that presently has ~230 paid members. Skip and I will discuss where the second sketch may have come from. I just was curious if DP was posting stuff on social media regarding the killing at one time, what the nature of his posts were. Kline was not arrested until more than three years later. @lemon @scarlet - I could not agree more. 2) There was a shot that was deliberately fired into the creek in an attempt to scare Libby, whom was attempting to evade Mr. And Mr. X or BG is the one who used that catfish to bring Libby in. He raped women, not young teenage girls. Im not buying the fact that they just werent equipped to handle an investigation of this magnitude. Are you serious? Only his hands, particularly focused on his bloody, sausage-like knuckles, could be seen with a caption that read after the brawl.. It has been said there were dolls and stuffed animals around the girls. Within a ditch along a country road on her way home from school shortly after her murder. I do not feel comfortable answering that question right now. He stayed to guard his truck. She still hasnt been able to process this, assuming such a thing can ever be processed. You just dont know what a person is capable of. Hey, its a capitalist country, right? Why on Earth would someone stay next to their truck all through one evening and night through the next early AM and morning into the afternoon? As you can see, the numbers are the same. Skip provides a notable suspect at the scene with a shady storyline, but we still are left in the dark about motive. The search warrant list a number of items that LE is looking for. I am running into one issue with Mr. X. I was wondering if there might be a different thought on this. The one through line in this debate is everyone has asked skip what his credentials are and consistently refuses, then says you can verify this from my Reddit posts - so basically the bar now set by TGC for expert guests is now Reddittor ? 7) Hes local. I never got to see that info. However, the use of copyrighted content falls under the guidelines of fair use: Section 107 of the Copyright Act- allows the unlicensed use of copyrighted materials for fair use purposes, such as commentary, criticism, teaching, and news reporting. Was present when the Evansdale Murders occurred. The end goal here is justice for Abby and Libby. You can tell by many things gait, body shape, manner of walking, voice, etc. We currently feel that this is the best explanation of the facts. Okay, I think I have the name which I garnered from another website. I guess one thought about the cops searching for videos, and I dont know the specific wording but could it be they are looking for businesses or residences that have security cameras? Theres just journalists. Besides being psycho. I def would like some info, I find tons of conflicting Info about DP.so is he BG? But we know that binoculars were used in this crime because we have search warrants and binoculars are one of the things that are listed on the search warrants. 3) This man is a *heavy* smoker and a functioning alcoholic. No, they are obviously looking for photos and videos that the killer took as part of this crime. In general, the less said about the other aspects of his life the better, and they have no relationship to this case anyway. R/LibbyandAbby does allow rumors and speculations, so at least they get some good posts and posters, while the overall mood is still a downer. Etc. They have enough suggestive evidence to make them think he did it, but if you look a the nature of their actual evidence, its awfully thin. He saved society a lot of money by eating a bullet, freeing up some fresh air and making the world the tiniest bit of a better place. And my ban appeal didnt work either. She was emphatic about that. Who are you friends with. I tend to suspect the latter of the two rather than the former. While Indiana State Police Sgt. The others are guardians. This implies that the girls were returned to the scene later. Many people from the Delphi area have gone over to went over to Evansdale to work on plants over there. I doubt if its important. Temp banned. Do you believe your POI acted alone to abduct and eventually kill the girls? I just got banned from Twitter again for no real good reason, so Im not feeling that great. No ones been hurt by this case more than Becky Patty. One last side note.. Nic stated in the podcast that Indiana collects DNA for all individuals convicted of a felony but it's actually anyone arrested for a felony, which is a much lower threshold. Abby and Libby, best friends in the eighth grade, were on a hiking. They dont have enough on the main suspect him to take him to trial, but they enough to think did it. I am thinking that maybe which ever one was pregnant may not have known. Thanks for your time. For a FREE month of listening go to http://stitcherpremium.com/truecrimegarage and use promo code GARAGEBeer Fund: https://truecrimegarage.com/home. I dont know why that stood out to me. That is all it can possibly be. If its who I think it is, you can tell her I said that. I find it odd that he initially said it was his girlfriend then changed it to another female. We believe that this happened in the first place because a photo exists of a truck being towed from the CPS building around February 14. Back to the POI, in February 2017, he lived next door to the cemetery which makes his actions and ruse around his truck & keys even more suspicious, if that is possible. Employment history: Unknown prior to 2011. I have no idea either way, but its just something that has bothered me because I dont see him being brought up nearly as much as some others who have had little to no connection to this case. They deleted it because he was insisting people in the replies come to delphi so people can fight them irl. Corn fields? Kelsi German: Sister of Libby. There may never be an arrest in this case. This is why you dont hear LE openly accusing people of committing serious crimes like homicide unless they have enough evidence to take them to trial. . What does everyone else who has followed the case closely think about this. They go up to the knee and are designed to be waterproof. However, there was one little problem. DELPHI, Ind. Fascinating episodes - Ive listened twice and got back through the old Delphi episodes too! These crimes are often a great big game to these guys, and they often try to insert clever little coincidences into their crimes, probably just to freak people out and make themselves seem diabolically clever, evil geniuses. To be fair, two other men were also searching Rons land that night and they didnt find anything either, so it looks like those girls were pretty hard to miss. | ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. Not the people who called him distasteful. Must be a lot of people with that name. But my opinion isnt worth anything. Theres only one parent. An undated handout photo shows Anna Williams with her daughter, Abby Williams, who was murdered in Delphi, Ind., in Feb. 2017. I'm not asking about if someone inadvertently gave an alibi, I'm asking if you believe more than one person had knowledge during and after the murders were carried out. Where did he get the food and what was the food? If so, wouldnt the coroner be able to obtain DNA from the fetus? I really dont see a motive for RL. Have you been in contact with her at all? I in no way want to spread false information. Of course she did. Delphi I do believe will be solved soon and I hope for the family it will be. The police chief says he is 99% sure that the main suspect, who is named, committed the crimes. I have an official case document here in my hand. The scope of this investigation in terms of who the police think did it and how it unfolded has been dramatically narrowed. Thanks again and have a great day. Do you think someone was sitting in the car at the CPS building waiting for POI? You do a great job! At 13 and 14 the cycles are messed up bad. That would have been quite a problem. Where his truck was parked was a five minute walk to the crime scene. Skip provides a notable suspect at the scene with a shady storyline, but we still are left in the dark about motive. Actually, Jack, the families do not know at all. The 2017 murder of Abby, 13, and Libby, 14, became notorious after investigators released chilling footage the girls recorded of a man following and approaching them across the Manon High Bridge. Unverified. ? thats tough luck usually)I agree with him that it was probably Logan that gave the cops details on Kirts to get out of the clink The cops say the killer made a mistakeI bet it was probably something left behind in one of Logans barns or shacks. So when LE said the younger sketch is the one who committed the crime, they were correct! Maybe he sent it to Libbys phone. DELPHI, Ind. Because that is a deer kit around his waist. We now have a better time frame for Mr. Xs truck being parked at the cemetery. The girl could well have been his high school freshman girlfriend. Is that also speculation? He lives in an ivory colored mobile looking home within the country. Last, I want to bring up RL and the dirty hand LE dealt him throughout all of this. Its not free though. I found it to be a really compelling theory, and as captain mentioned in the pod, the missing link with all the other "good fit" POIs that have been discussed is they cannot be placed at the scene. It turns out that we have acquired a sleuth who is a former detective. The Indiana detectives investigating the 2017 Delphi murders claimed on Thursday to have new leads in the case and warned their suspect that they know who he is - but are yet to make any. I seem like the nicest guy youve met. I have not been able to determine that from all of these postings. There are many people who confuse him with PB in comments and videos. Have for a long time. Lets call this the intuitive hunch of an MI veteran. I hope he doesnt read here but I knew a Facebook group mod who was in contact with him and she felt he was either gay, an effeminate man, or a Beta, as she put it. He took a piece of jewelry from Libby as a trophy thats also buried. I have no inside info, never been to the area and cant pretend Im going to solve the case. See video. To do this, he uses the knives the deer kit that BG has around his waist. Ive followed your articles over the past four years and find your insight quite interesting! So, DP could be deposed. DELPHI, Ind. He only discusses facts. There are screenshots showing the discrepancies. Im just curious what the facts for each side are. The document states, for no apparent reason, that the girls were both abducted at 2:13 PM. Hes a local executive of a government function or perhaps better yet a nonprofit of some sort. They recovered Libbys phone, so they wouldnt still be looking for the audio/video. BG is obviously a middle-aged man around 50. They told us that Kegan Kline was not involved. Derrick German: Libbys father, meth dealer, convict who served time in prison and supposedly ratted people out to get a lower sentence. One problem was we went down the rabbit hole chasing the wrong guy for a couple of years. Unverified and Probably Not True. So Mr. X was more traumatized by this crime than anyone else, including the victims grandmother who was hurt more than anyone. In the case that I did find false information, please feel free to contact me in the comments below or by email. However, some people are stupid enough to sue even when they are guilty. Old style 501 blue jeans from the 1980s Dad jeans. Better to let your officers go home for a few hours so theyd be ready for work the next morning. A log was placed in front of one of the girls, and a doll was placed in front of the other girl. Shameful. However, there are some good posters, especially on r/LibbyandAbby. No, I Dont Lack Credibility or Legitimacy, Alt Left: Hate the Collective But Love the Individual. Skip, thanks for responding to my question. Not sub rules, all of Reddit rules. Im fooling the cops, ha ha! is the thinking. However, the nature of these videos, means I rely on news outlets, speculations of investigators, journalists and family members. The only places he differs is where he thinks that the police are wrong! Sorry, Ive been a bit down lately. Person of Interest is a much higher standard than unnamed suspect, and he hasnt even risen to that level yet. They call the guy DP and he is a person who was at the bridge/trails at the time and has been considered an eye witness. One of our team members talked to a detective in Kentucky a couple of years ago who told us about this expunged conviction. They werent that close. Wait so the part about him recording the crime is some search warrant given to someone where the cops wanted to check media files. Great to see you back on the case! 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