Mr. GOLDSMITH - Do you have any personal knowledge that any records at CIA Headquarters were ever destroyed? Consider the following letter: Re: THE ASSASSINATION OF PRESIDENT JOHN F. KENNEDY, While working as a journalist in Dallas late in 1974 and early 1975, I met and spoke with Lee Harvey Oswalds supervisor at the Texas School Book Depository in Dallas, Texas. Something went wrong. In my letter to him, I praised him for his courage and expressed the hope that someday he might fill in the gaps of his story for the sake of history. Anyone e1se? My address is 2761 Atlantic Street, in Concord, and my occupation is electronic technician. Mr. WILCOTT - They would have summaries of some sort. I made my call and left. Then in 2009 I read and reviewed James Douglass's masterpiece, JFK and the Unspeakable, and my traumatic memories of 1963 and after came flooding back in full force. Mr. GOLDSMITH - I am not sure that that is responsive. Mr. WILCOTT - That is correct. Mr. CORNWELL - Your best memory is, you wrote it on a note paid, is. Mr. WILCOTT - I left the agency in April of 1966 for the Miami Station. Mr. DODD - And your dissatisfaction with the Agency and with the course of American government preceded the actual assassination of President Kennedy? Mr. WILCOTT - No, sir. In November 1963, on the Friday before Thanksgiving, President Kennedy was riding in a Lincoln convertible rolling through the streets of Dallas. Mr. PREYER - Why did you resign from the CIA? About four or five years after the assassination, she said, Scott Foresman and another publisher called Southwestern decided to sever ties with the Texas School Book Depository. Mr. WILCOTT - Yes, they did. The significance of Glazes 1989 letter is that it provides a tantalizing piece of information which may indicate a covert side to the depository itself. Mr. GOLDSMITH - To your personal knowledge, CIA records XXXXXXXXXX were destroyed? Mr. GOLDSMITH - And finally, as I said at the beginning is it fair to say that you are here voluntarily today? Mr. GOLDSMITH - Would your Counsel identify himself for the recorder? Mr. WILCOTT - Yes. James Wilcott worked out of the Tokyo CIA station at the time of the assassination. Mr. WILCOTT - Well, sir, the day after the assassination I don't think that there was any of that kind of talk. His duties routinely brought him in contact with all station people, and in particular with operational agents. James T. Tague was an unintended victim in the Kennedy assassination, hit by a stray bullet while stuck in traffic on the way to pick up a luncheon date. Assassinations, The subcommittee met at 10:20 a.m., pursuant to notice, in room 2344 of the Rayburn Office Building, the Honorable Richard Preyer (Chairman of the subcommittee), presiding. She died in 1969. Mr. WILCOTT - Approximately two years, sir. That is what we are attempting to accomplish, which is quite a big order. Mr. WILCOTT - Anything they had there would have -- sometimes they used as many as two or three different cryptonyms and they would have -- it all depended on how far they wanted to isolate it from the original source, from the original source as to where the project was run. Mr. WILCOTT - Yes. That he continued to serve in a military, or semi-military, capacity at the same time he was working for a schoolbook company is indicated by his obituary, which said he was a veteran of World War II. To calculate the overall star rating and percentage breakdown by star, we dont use a simple average. Their whereabouts are completely unknown. When I got to the phone, two of the lines were lit up. Using your mobile phone camera - scan the code below and download the Kindle app. Mr. WILCOTT - I am sorry, sir; I lost the thread of your question. Mr. WILCOTT - Well, my tires were slashed and damage done to my car and I believe sugar poured in the gas tank, and whether this was actually CIA or not I have no way of knowing, and it could also have been just for harassment as a result of antiwar activities but I think there is also a possibility that it could have been attempts to intimidate me into talking about the CIA. Mr. WILCOTT - Yes. [19] Immediately after Adams and Styles went out the back door, Officer Marion Baker came in through the front door and met Roy Truly. Mr. GOLDSMITH - Was Jerry Fox one of the people that made. Mr. WILCOTT - I was recruited from the school in Syracuse New York, where I was taking a course in accounting and busi- ness administration. Mr. CORNWELL - Do you recall whether or not you used that in the process of looking through the 30-day book you described? Mr. WILCOTT - Yes, sir. Mr. WILCOTT - No, sir, not that I can recall. Also at this location were the office suites of eight schoolbook publishing companies, including Scott Foresman, Southwestern, Macmillan, and McGraw-Hill. Mr. WILCOTT - It is a little bit east of Oakland, California. Copies of my written testimony have disappeared from my personal files. Mr. GOLDSMITH - Just give us their names. Mr. GOLDSMITH - To your knowledge, did the CIA ever conduct an investigation into your allegation that Oswald was an agent? Mr. WILCOTT - Yes, I was on security duty, and on security duty, agents were coming in and out of the station, and I pulled a lot of security duty, three and four nights right in a row, and pulled as much as 24 hours on weekends, and an agent would come back from meeting with somebody and he would be waiting for his wife to pick him up or would be waiting for a call from one of the indigenous agents that he was running and a lot of times conversations would be talked. Instead, our system considers things like how recent a review is and if the reviewer bought the item on Amazon. I do. I am a reporter there. Mr. WILCOTT - Oh, yes. Bring your club to Amazon Book Clubs, start a new book club and invite your friends to join, or find a club thats right for you for free. Mr. GOLDSMITH - And would he corroborate your observation that Oswald was an agent? [2] As we shall see, there is evidence that Oswald worked with another CIA agent in Dallas. [23] William Weston, Robert MacNeil and the Three Calm Men, in the November 1994 issue of The Fourth Decade. Mr. WILCOTT - That is true, sir. Mr. SAWYER - What were some other instances? It was more of a casual kind of thing, to my way of thinking. Mr. WILCOTT - The basis for that is discussions that I had with people at the XXXXX Station. From April of 1965 to April of 1966, I was at Miami Station in finance, and I was handling the staff payroll. Mr. WILCOTT - Surely, sir. Towards the end of my tour of duty, I heard certain things about Oswald somehow being connected with the agency, and I didn't really believe this when I heard it, and I thought it was absurd. ", and they might look it over and retype the accounting for funds for their project and, you know, make changes that they might think were in their interest to do. Since the floors were not strong enough to accommodate forklifts, he wondered how the warehouse men could have moved such enormous boxes. Mr. WILCOTT - Yes, you did. (Whereupon, a recess was taken while the members of the Committee went to the floor of the House for a vote.). Mr. WILCOTT - That is right. Mr. WILCOTT - I was afraid quite frankly. Mr. WILCOTT - Oh, yes. At the end of the hallway to his right was another door. Mr. SAWYER - What was the name of the FBI agent who you think infiltrated this antiwar group? Since the CIA has the capability of engineering car crashes to look like accidents, Harriss name should be added to the list of mysterious deaths, along with Warren Commission witness Lee Bowers, who died when his car ran off the road and ran into a freeway abutment. time and date of assassination and correspondence with time and date of Wilcott's hearing of assassination. Mr. GOLDSMITH - Why did you wait five years? Mr. DODD - And you and your wife both went to work for the CIA about the same time? Mr. GOLDSMITH - Referring to that list, would you tell the Committee where you were stationed during your period with the CIA? Mr. WILCOTT - My wife and I both left the CIA because we became convinced that what CIA was doing couldn't be reconciled to basic principles of democracy or basic principles of humanism. suspicious that many of the other things that happened may have had as its source the CIA. Mr. WILCOTT - The specific incident was soon after the Kennedy assassination, where an agent, a Case Officer -- I am sure it was a Case Officer -- came up to my window to draw money, and he specifically said in the conversation that ensued, he specifically said, "Well, Jim, the money that I drew the last couple of weeks ago or so was money," either for the Oswald project or for Oswald. Mr. WILCOTT - It was my Request for Advance Book. In 1970, the TSBD and the schoolbook publishers moved out of the old 411 Elm Street building. Mr. WILCOTT - None initially. Mr. CORNWELL - What type of people were they? It achieved commercial success in 1970 with a hit song called "Mr. Bojangles. In 1992, the band was still active, touring the country and recording albums. The 1960 directory lists him as a department manager for the Texas School Book Depository, living in a house at 126 Tatum Avenue. He learned this after the fact through various sources within the Agency, who all recognized what had happened after the assassination and the association of Oswalds name with the crime. Mr. WILCOTT - Yes, sir. Mr. DODD - After the assassination actually occurred? Mr. GOLDSMITH - Did you have any basis for thinking that their security was poor? Mr. CORNWELL - What year was that? as members of the F.B.I., approached the two new employees at work & took them to an empty room inside the building. From June of 1964 to about December of 1964, I was at Roseland. Mr. GOLDSMITH - Can you give the Committee the names of any persons who might corroborate your allegation? On November 22, 1963, there were sixty-nine people working in the building at 411 Elm Streetthirty-three for the TSBD and forty-six for the publishers. [15] Shelley testimony, Volume 6 of the Warren Commission Hearings and Exhibits on page 327, hereafter to be cited as 6H327. Needless to say, she never did wear that dress. Mr. GOLDSMITH - Did this Case Officer tell you what Oswald's cryptonym was? Mr. GOLDSMITH - excuse me, just answer the question very generally, without referring to anything right now, and please describe generally what your responsibilities were as a finance officer. She confided this information to Mrs. Bergin and told her that she had a copy of the First Ladys dress, pink in color with the black velvet collar. Mr. GOLDSMITH - And you testified without any reservation? Mr. WILCOTT - Well, I never really looked. In 1947, the year when the CIA was formed, the Dallas city directory lists William Shelley as a clerk for the Hugh Perry Book Depository (the old name for the Texas School Book Depository), and that he had a room at 515 Martinique Avenue. Mr. WILCOTT - Dozens, literally dozens. At the time he visited the place, Scott Foresman was gone, and a carpet company was occupying the building. Below is Mr. Glazes letter: House of Re. Mr. WILCOTT - Yes, sir. Mr. GOLDSMITH - And what did he tell you the cryptonym was? Carolyn Walther, a street spectator waiting to see the presidents motorcade, observed a two-man sniper team at a window on the fifth floor on the far-right side of the building. All I remember is that her husband was previously a member of the musical group The Nitty Gritty Dirt Band. She didnt show up for work the next day and didnt pick up her final paycheck. Mr. WILCOTT - Yes. Mr. WILCOTT - Yes, sir. Mr. GOLDSMITH - Did you prepare such a list? I discussed it with my friends and the people that I was associating with socially. Mr. WILCOTT - I doubt it, sir. Mr. CORNWELL - Had you ever run into any similar cryptonym? Mr. WILCOTT - Yes, sir. And perhaps even having people inside the TSBD as assets. Mr. GOLDSMITH - With whom? JFK Assassination : The James B. Wilcott Files And The CIA Oswald Project: An Investigative Report. Mr. GOLDSMITH - I am not sure I am following, then, what specifically you did check. Do you follow the question? Mr. CORNWELL - However, I take it from the fact that, as you describe it, it wasn't always applied, that occasionally you did learn something about the identities of the persons or projects that the cryptonyms referred to; is that correct? Mr. CORNWELL - Did they tell you whether or not you passed the polygraphs? Mr. GOLDSMITH - Did you discuss this information with CIA finance officer James Wilcott said, Several different individuals or firms in Dallas had been involved in one way or another with acting as cut-outs for arms shipments to Cuban exiles for the invasion. Mr. WILCOTT - -- to the Miami Station. They received threats over the telephone, even death threats. I was really scared to go to the Government and talk about any of these things. While working as a journalist in Dallas, Tx. I apologize. Mr. GOLDSMITH - Do you have an opinion as to how the Mr. WILCOTT - Yes. The Warren Commission did all they could to delay the arrival time on the first floor by Adams and Styles in order to remove the two girls from the stairs when Oswald would have likely been on them. Mr. GOLDSMITH - Do you remember the name of this Case Officer? Mr. DODD - How long had you been married by the way? Mr. WILCOTT - It was a book that I had. Dorothy Ann Garner, former staff supervisor of Scott Foresman, thought the move occurred around 1960 or maybe a little later. Mr. PREYER - So that in XXXX, you indicated, six or seven people talked to you and were, as I understood it, rather definite about the Oswald connection? (2009), James W. Douglass explains this in detail, including the James Wilcott story. With perhaps two CIA agents on the same premises, a careful scrutiny of the company they worked for is needed to understand what happened the day President Kennedy was killed. Mr. WILCOTT - Yes, sir; I believe that happened. Mr. GOLDSMITH - And are you saying then that you attempted to investigate this allegation? Mr. WILCOTT - Yes, sir. Mr. WILCOTT - In 1963, I wasn't think that much about it. Mr. DODD - And it is your clear recollection that he was described as an agent? Mr. GOLDSMITH - Who were your friends that you discussed this with? And during that period, I had been promoted, GS-7 and also gained a career status. Mr. CORNWELL - Is that the only reason? Mr. WILCOTT - It is based on the principle that only those persons who are involved in a project or involved in operation -- and even things that would not seem to be at all in any way secret -- only those people should know about, it and nobody else should know about it, and that was a "need-to-know" basis Mr. GOLDSMITH - When did that occur? [17] Gladys Cason, One Life, self-published book, 2004, pp. . Mr. CORNWELL - It is your testimony, as I understand it, the first time that you spoke about the Oswald agency matter outside of the CIA was after you left the CIA; is that correct? Mr. GOLDSMITH - And did you check any other records? Also in this investigative report is information and connections on prime suspects : CIA Agent William King Harvey, CIA Agent George Joannides , CIA Agent David Altee Phillips and the confessions of CIA agent David Sanchez Morals and E Howard Hunt. In 1992, Congress passed the President John F. Kennedy Assassination Records Collection Act that placed all remaining government documents pertaining to the assassination in a special category and . Obviously, if Shelly had been arrested, someone with the police had that record expunged. Mr. GOLDSMITH - Did you ever bring your allegation to the attention of anyone in the CIA? Mr. PREYER - And dozens of others talked to you in a general, speculative manner? Afterwards, Joe visited him in his office and could hardly believe the change that came over him. Thank you for your kind words and interest. Mr. CORNWELL - To your knowledge, when was the first point in time at which your extra-agency discussions on this subject matter came to the attention of the Agency, if ever? that correct? If you should need to contact me, you may do so in care of the Lubbock Avalanche Journal newspaper in Lubbock, Tx. that I had at my gate, and I did that with cryptonyms from time to time for something -- we would want to check back into their accounting for something. Had the seemingly insignificant trail of bread crumbs I stumbled across had not been so he avidly guarded, I might never have given it a second thought. (The witness conferred with his Counsel.). According to Wilcott, Tokyo time of killing was approx. Mr. WILCOTT - Yes. Dave -- I can't remember his last name, Deputy Chief of the China Branch; and then a person whose last name was XXXXXXXXX in the XXXXXXXXX Branch. Mr. WILCOTT - Yes, sir. Free shipping for many products! Mr. GOLDSMITH - And the first time you alleged in public this allegation was in 1968? Mr. WILCOTT - It was right at my window, my disbursing cage window. [18], Less than a minute after the assassination, two Scott Foresman employees, Victoria Adams and Sandra Styles, who were on the fourth floor, ran down the stairs to the first floor. Mr. GOLDSMITH - Were you ever able to check those particular files? Mr. WILCOTT - Yes; it is my belief that he was a regular agent and this was a regular project of the Agency to send Oswald to the Soviet Union. 66-67. Mr. GOLDSMITH - I did not intend to get into that area. I was in too much of a hurry to remember what the three men looked like. All that I knowand the attending dead endswere passed along to a researcher and author in Dallas a few years ago. This was preparing and reconciling payrolls. Shelley told Glaze that he himself was arrested for the assassination. Dean was the son of Elzie L. Glaze and Geneva I. Glaze and was born in Lubbock, Texas. Mr. WILCOTT - That is true. 359-360, 386-387. Mr. WILCOTT - Yes, I have. Two men, who identified themselves (with I.D.) Mr. GOLDSMITH - At the time you went to look at the book, Oswald was already dead is that correct? Mr. DODD - Am I to believe by that that you were not aware at the time you made the disbursement that it was, in fact, an Oswald project? I talked to reporters from various papers, and I talked to people in other forms of meetings, and to me it is not surprising at all. Find many great new & used options and get the best deals for The Poison Patriarch : How the Betrayals of Joseph P. Kennedy Caused the. Mr. WILCOTT - That was November of 1977. Its also includes links to many hours of online videos you can watch on the evidence covered. Behind the building are five loading docks and an asphalt lot extensive enough to accommodate a number of trucks of any given size. Yes, I do, and I believe there was such a reference. In the decades following that fateful day, former employees of these companies have been reluctant to answer questions. Mr. SCHAAP - Do you mean, how many people who were in the CIA or how many people in the general population? Ms. Berning. On many occasions he had conversations with CIA personnel concerning Lee Harvey Oswald's employment as a CIA agent. Mr. WILCOTT - I don't understand. There is a vast literature on the assassination of President John F. Kennedy, . Mr. WILCOTT - Or perhaps January. Of all times to break down, my typewriter chose tonight to do it. Mr. PREYER - The committee will resume. There were more people than that that believed it, and six people with any degree of certainty that, you know, I felt from what they were saying that they either had some kind of substantial knowledge, or they had talked to somebody who had some knowledge. Mr. SAWYER - I noticed in somne of the information we are provided you say that following your leaving the CIA in 1967 or thereabouts, for a period of some three years or so, you were harassed by the CIA and the FBI and sabotaged, as I recollect it. Did you recognize any part of it, the first two letters or the last portions of it, as referring to any geographic area or any type of activity or anything like that? Through another researcher, I obtained Glazes mailing address. When the woman heard that Glaze was planning to go to the FBI, or had already been to the FBI, she was terrified and told him that she would deny everything. I . Mr. WILCOTT - I was able to but I never did. However, if you received this information two or three months after the assassination, at a time that Oswald was already dead and had been dead for two or three months, what purpose would have been served by checking records that were only 30 days old? about it & possibly do a story on it. Mr. WILCOTT - Well, it has been difficult because people don't want to get involved, and people were scared. Did he say to you, "I think Oswald was a CIA agent," or did that first person say to you that he was a CIA agent? Mr. WILCOTT - Destroyed or changed. Mr. WILCOTT - They called me up to chief of security, the agent security, and they interviewed me on the association that I had had with the group, and then they gave me a polygraph -- in fact, two polygraphs -- concerning my association with the group of people that I met with the group. Mr. DODD - I am a little confused, I suppose, A fellow researcher named Eric Lee Jordan visited the site and took pictures of it. 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